An indication of imprisonment in the natal chart. Indicators of the prison in the birth horoscope. The course of the experiment "Horoscope of a killer or an actor?"

Primers 22.10.2020
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Which I spent for myself a few months ago, and decided to write about it just now. Its essence was to choose half of the unknown 10 cards belonging to the actors, and another 5 - to the killers. I know that from the readers of the Astro-School blog, almost no one wanted / could not work. Almost all were limited to the two given in the last article. Of course, there is not enough time, or maybe the research vein is weak or something else…. Anyway, I am publishing my findings.

The meaning of an astrological experiment

I'll start with a simple question, why was such an experiment needed at all? Why was it necessary to compare the horoscopes of murderers and actors? I explained my motivation last time: I was just curious if I could tell the first from the second. That is, I was guided by a banal idle curiosity. But to describe it here, on the website of the Astrological School, I was prompted by completely different reasons:

First, I wanted to show in practice the responsibility of the astrologer for every word he utters. How many actors have you charged with murder? And how many maniacs have they "justified" with their conclusions? I'll be honest about myself: I mixed up two cards. That is, one person, a beautiful, young girl, a talented actress was considered a criminal, and the killer was considered a talented actor. These are two destinies, two lives. This is a huge responsibility! And it is important to understand, accept and be able to carry it.

Secondly, I wanted to show that you should not count on good result in those topics where you are incompetent... This is my story, because in the subject of serial maniacs and killers, I am a complete zero. I do not know their psychology, the peculiarities of life, this is a matter completely incomprehensible to me, in which I am incompetent. Therefore, by and large, it would be impossible for me to undertake such an analysis in real life. Here it was a game, but in real life you shouldn't take those topics that you don't understand. This is especially true for very novice astrologers who, having read a couple of books, for example, on medical astrology, begin to consider themselves specialists who can provide high-quality advice . This is not true, before you become competent in a topic, you need to fully work out at least 100 natal charts on it. Just don't forget about the boundaries of your competence.

B-3, I wanted to show you how DO NOT need to conduct The fact remains: 99% of all astrological research is carried out with errors, which I already mentioned in the first part of the article. The same mistakes were made in this experiment. The main one is that the studied cards are not tested for radicality and are not rectified. Therefore, there is no need to talk about the reliability of the judgment on them and the correctness of the experiment. This is if you take the experiment seriously. If you indulge, you can even explore dates of birth or sun signs, as we like to do. I will definitely return to the topic of astrological (serious) experiments.

The course of the experiment "Horoscope of a killer or an actor?"

And now to the results. Who is impatient, here you can (cards-questions, cards-answers, exact birth data for each card).

Who can wait, in part I will describe the path I walked, trying to distinguish killers from actors. I’m not saying she’s faithful. You can find your solutions to this problem, which will be completely different from mine, and there is nothing strange about it.

It's not about the astrological methods that we use, but about making the right conclusions.

Moreover, even now, at the end of the experiment, I cannot tell you the exact astrological signs of a killer that will be found in the chart. each criminal. There are some separate indicative fragments of the cards, which in the aggregate may indicate the culprit. But i did not find common signs characteristic of all such horoscopes... Perhaps you will find. Just do not forget to conduct such an experimental study more correctly than I did :)

So, before us there were 10 cards, each half of which had to have similar characteristics.

The killers' cards (all) were supposed to contain indications of the possibility of committing a serious crime and punishment, for a certain fame from the commission of murders.

Actors' cards (all) had to contain indications of fame from public activities, from the stage.

Where did I start?

(Before reading, open the article - it will be very useful to you)

1) From Saturn in the 12th house :) Or, more precisely, from the fact that in the horoscope of the killers there should be the formula of grave crimes (9-12) and at the same time Saturn must necessarily have a relation to it (about this is in the book of S.V. Shestopalov "Analysis of the horoscope", p. 111, 293). This means that Saturn should be related to the 9th or 12th house and participate in tense interactions between them. Also, in the charts of people whose term of imprisonment exceeded several years, Saturn should be related to the 12th house, that is, to control it, co-rule, be in it or tensely aspect an element of this house. That's where I started: I selected the cards that match this parameter. These turned out to be cards # 1 (Saturn at 12), # 2 (Saturn at 12), # 3 (governing 12), No. 4 (square Saturn-ruler 12 Jupiter), No. 7 (Saturn governs 12). These five cards were my first "contenders" for a group of assassins.

Next, it was necessary to check the presence of a complete formula for serious offenses in the selected cards, that is, in addition to Saturn, at least three intense interactions between the elements of the 9th and 12th houses.In simple words: you need to highlight the elements of the 9th house and the 12th house and determine whether there are tense connections between them.

Let's analyze the map # 1 together (the map is clickable - it will open in a new window when clicked):

Elements of the 9th house: Uranus, Neptune, Jupiter retro.

Elements of the 12th house: Mercury, Saturn, Venus (Venus is questionable, since it is practically on the Ascendant. And we cannot check in any way which house it really belongs to, therefore, according to the conditions of the experiment, we work with the data “how there is").

Intense interactions between the 9th and 12th houses:

The first is Uranus (9) squared with Venus (12);

The second - ... other planets do not have mutual intense aspects. There are no more connections. Most likely, this person could not break the law, so I put it aside with the inscription "Rather, A" ("Rather, Actor") and continue working.

Let's analyze card # 2 from the last article:

Elements of the 9th house: Mercury, Uranus, Moon.

Elements of the 12th house: Mercury, Saturn.

Intense interactions between elements of 9 and 12 houses:

The first is Saturn (12) squared Uranus (9);

The second is the Moon (9) in opposition to Mercury (12);

The third is interaction through Mercury, which is at the same time element 9 and 12. Such interaction through simultaneous belonging to two houses, just like connection, can play out in both "plus" and "minus". In this case (in the context of the topic, taking into account the defeat and retrograde of Mercury, with the participation of 12 "evil" houses), this is a tense interaction. In this horoscope there are the necessary conditions for the propensity to delinquency and the ability to thunder into prison for a long time: a triple intense interaction between the 9th and 12th houses, Saturn is a participant in the formula and the element of the 12th house. Already at this stage of the analysis, we can classify this card as particularly suspicious - I simply marked it with the words "rather, U" (which means, "More likely, a murderer").

Of course, the presence of even the full version of this formula in the radix does not automatically make a person a criminal and doomed to imprisonment, because other map pointers plus the level of spiritual development of a person who will never be seen in the map are of great importance!

The remaining charts, in which Saturn was related to the 12th house, were analyzed according to the same principle. I will not give a full analysis here, I think that using examples you can easily do it yourself. Here I will show only the results (the card number and the number of tense bonds between 9 and 12 are shown):

At this stage, I received two clearly pronounced cards, where the formula of offenses was completely: No. 2 and No. 4, these - in the group "Rather, murderers." Remained in question, especially cards No. 7 and 3 (in No. 7 there is a very indicative stellium in the 8th house, and in No. 3, with a slight time shift, the dominant accents shift and the card becomes eloquent)

2) Then I started for 8 house (I write shorter from this point). The house of death and terrible transformations had to be unequivocally negatively manifested in the cards of the murderers, besides, be strong (that is, have many tense elements and / or tense Lilith). Of course, the strength of a house relative to other houses is measured quite accurately according to one of the methods, I will definitely give it a place in the blog at Now I will say briefly: the number of connections of houses with other houses of the map is an indicator of its strength, the more connections, the stronger the house. The easiest way to count: weak house - less than 20 connections; average house - 20-30 connections; strong house - from 30 connections. Affected home - at least half of the connections are negative or through connection.

3) Next, I analyzed the presence of ties between the 7th and 8th houses (the so-called hate formula). These are indications that a person may cause physical harm to another person or receive it from another. The killers should have such instructions necessarily... In the cards of the actors, they maymeet, such as indications of profit from other people, or the same assault, but in a more loyal way. That is why I referred this combination to additional indications: if it exists with the support of other significant factors, it is in the direction of the killer.

4) Moon position in the map: a person with the Moon, governing or standing in the 8th house, subconsciously considers the 8th house situations as normal and gravitates towards them. This is another additional indication of a possible killer.

5) tense bonds between 1 and 8 houses - this is literally the danger of physical harm, as well as personal participation (1) in extreme situations, facing death (8).

6) The predominance of tense aspects in the map (heavy configurations - cross, tau-square, stellium without or with insufficient access to harmonious aspects). Gives the need for action, but great difficulties with its adequate implementation.

And so on. It makes no sense to describe everything that I thought and looked at. These are the main and most revealing moments that I paid attention to when trying to distinguish the killer card from the actor card. According to the general conclusions, the prevailing negative aspects, according to personal subjective feelings, I divided the cards and ... I made a mistake twice.

I wonder how you coped with this task and what conclusions did you come to? Feel free to speak up in the comments.

Finally, answers to two cards from the last article:

Card # 6 (left) belongs to the famous young actress Jessica Alba,

And card number 2 (right) - serial killer Randy Woodfield (killed three people and is suspected of murder 44 more).

By the way, very large tycoons, billionaires, have a formula almost the same, with a small addition: II + V + VIII + XI + X. Billionaires are not just lucky with big money, it is their social calling, life goal, and the essence of a career.

Let's go back to our lucky one. And here the question arises: what kind of situation is this, progressive or transitory? Probably, there should be some progressions as a background, but given that luck in the game is an external event, not an internal motivation (everyone wants to win, but who wins? There is little internal motivation), we must admit that it is, rather, transits. Moreover, the state of the subject (mood for the game) on a particular day plays an important role. There is one more consideration, progressions leave a mark for life, their effect changes the subject's lifestyle, but here, well, he won $ 10,000, so what? Soon he spent them, basically nothing has changed in his life. Now, if he won a million dollars, then his life would be different, his lifestyle, environment, etc. would change. a very large win is, of course, progressions.

Well, we are going according to plan, first let's see the slow progression to September 16, 1997. We take the local map, of course.

Progressive

the elements

Local

the elements

We look at aspects with an orb of 1 °.

1) Venus progressive 30 ° with Mercury locale. The aspect is convergent. (3, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 5, 6) + (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10). Three times V + VIII (big money game), twice V + XI and one VIII + XI.

2) Mercury progressive 60 ° with Pluto. (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10) + (2, 3, 8, 4, 5, 9). Three times V + VIII, twice II + V and one II + VIII.

3) Mercury progressive in the VIII house of the locale. Again many links on the topic. Moreover, since the connections with the VIII house are not very good, a rather interesting description is obtained: at first he "ran aground", and therefore was forced (compulsion is a characteristic feature of tense aspects) to play.

3) Pluto is progressive in conjunction with natal Pluto. Here and II, and V, and VIII.

4) The cusp of the V house is progressive 30 ° to Venus and Mercury in the locale. (3, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 5, 6) + 5 and (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10) + 5. Twice V + VIII and one V + XI.

As you can see, mostly V + VIII is going (big win).

Now let's see the transits at 0 o'clock on 16.09.1997 GMT.

Transit

the elements

Local

the elements

The first aspect that catches the eye: 1) Transit Mercury in conjunction with local Pluto. (4, 5, 5, 6, 8, 7, 7, 9, 10) with (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9). The aspect is converging, almost exact - the events took place after midnight on the night of September 15-16.

2) Venus transit 60 ° with local Pluto. (3, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 5, 6) + (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9). The aspect is convergent, accurate (within 1 °).

These two precise aspects determine the date of the event, which takes place against the background of other transit aspects, not so precise, but quite valid.

3) Pluto transit 60 ° with Saturn and Jupiter. (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9) + (1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 12) and (2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9) + (1, 3, 10 , 11, 12). Moreover, the aspect is converging with Jupiter (lucky so lucky!).

By the way, here is another example from my practice. In one of my acquaintances, Pluto was harmoniously aspected by the natal Jupiter. This year, she inherited from a neighbor (died of cancer) a room in a communal apartment in the old fund, for which she later received $ 6,000.

Question: and if a person, on the contrary, has large monetary losses, for example, a robbery, then the formula is the same, but with minuses?

Answer: Well, let's voice the formula for robbery. Let's start with the formula for danger to life: X | I-VIII. This is a serious injury, an injury, an operation (amputation, cut out something, a kidney, for example), well, and death. If X | I-VIII-XI | Uranus, then this is suicide. If X | I-VIII-VII, then this is an opportunity to become a victim of another person or cause the death of another person, for example, a car accident, two cars collided, there are victims, one driver is the cause, the other is a victim, and this formula works for both ... If X | I-VIII-VII-XI, then this is a clearly deliberate murder (XI is the house of deliberate, one might say, planned, hatched actions), or a person is deliberately killed or he himself kills someone (a professional killer, for example).

Now the danger to property: II - VIII, this is any material damage. If II-VIII-XI, then this is material damage with an emergency shade (XI house - unexpectedly, suddenly the pipe burst, etc.). If II-VIII-XI-XII, then this is robbery or the person himself is a thief (XI is deliberate actions, XII is a secret, hidden harm, they quietly pulled a wallet out of his pocket). The robbery takes place, as they say, in front of your eyes, i.e. you personally are "present" at this, there must be I or X house, i.e. robbery formula: I | X-II-VIII-XI, there is a danger to life (and they can stab with a knife), material damage, and deliberate actions (XI house). And if I | X-II-VIII-VII-XI, then they attacked, robbed, killed, or the subject himself is a raider and a bandit. If II-IV-VIII-XI-XII, then this is an apartment robbery.

Question: what if IV-VIII-XI-XII?

Answer: it turns out that the apartment itself was "stolen", and not the things from it (no II house). Well, maybe a man ran into real estate scammers, or he himself.

Predictive astrology.

PRACTICE.

Example 8.Arrest and jail.

The man was born on December 8, 1967 at 11 am (local time), Engels (Saratov region). Date of registration of the first marriage - June 2, 1990, Engels. The trial took place on December 27, 1993, ibid. The verdict read: "To impose a sentence of imprisonment for a period of three years."

Apparently, he committed the crime earlier, so some progressive aspects must be divergent.

Question: if you prayed to God, can you cancel progressions?

Answer: A miracle is always possible. I've had such cases, very bad transits, terrible progressions. The man prayed to God - it was taken out, carried by. By the way, what is the difference between black magic and white magic? Black magic acts on a person only on bad progressions, and white magic always. In this sense, I doubt at all that black magic exists. Here I have an acquaintance: "Here, they jinxed me, they put a spoilage on me!" I look at progressions and transits and I see that there is no need to "stare", everything is already bad, without magic. But the opposite situation, when everything is bad in the horoscope, but a person prays and is saved, is possible, I have observed such cases.

If good progressions are formed to the natal planet, which is weak in sign, has only tense aspects, then there is no need to expect much profit, well, so, something will happen, but this is not a fountain. Here I had a case, one of my clients organized the visit of Vanessa May, while he had good progressions to Saturn, and he in natal is weak in sign, poorly aspected. I told him so: "don't expect much profit." And so it happened, ends meet and that's it. There were no losses, but also a little income. Those. the natal status of the planet in terms of position and aspects must also be taken into account.

Well, okay, let's look at the natal chart (Fig. 36). After specifying the date of the first marriage, the time turned out to be 10 hours. 44 minutes 30 sec.

Figure: 36

Now let's find out what the prison gives us. Since ancient times, in astrology, the combination of the 9th and 12th houses has been considered as "judgment" and "prison". Justice is also traditionally associated with the planet Jupiter, i.e. it can be considered the significator of judgment. The arrest is connected with the VIII house (forcible detention with the use of force). Those. formula for arrest and prison VIII-IX | Jupiter-XII (detained, convicted, imprisoned). If only IX-XII, then it can be just accusation, slander, forced flight, emigration, deportation, expulsion from the country. Although, of course, it happens that a person escapes from prison.


The woman applied in November 2009 with a question concerning her son Vladislav. The question was: "Does my son Vladislav face imprisonment?" According to his mother, Vladislav does not lead a healthy lifestyle, he has inappropriate behavior, he is aggressive, uncontrollable.

Vladislav was born on 28.12.1980 at 22h 52min 05sec (rectified time) in Izhevsk. He lived in Izhevsk, all events took place in Izhevsk.
In the natal chart, Mercury is in Capricorn at the midpoint between Venus and Mars. Apparently, the state of mind of a person needs to be given special attention (middle point), full implementation of intellectual qualities, practicality will be required, especially since Mercury is ruler I (attention to oneself, one's behavior) at home and MS (social and professional growth) - corner houses and the second lord IX and XII, in charge of law and isolation. Mercury in tense aspects to the planets in ASC (with the Moon, Jupiter and Saturn) - Vladislav conflicts with women, boring character, anxiety, inconstancy, chaos. Mars, if the above requirements of Mercury (midpoint) are not taken into account, will bring aggressiveness, up to a clouding of mind, which can provoke a problem with law-abidingness (Venus ru. IX house).
Mars 60 Uranus, Mars in the V house, Uranus in the III house - aspects of love for freedom, activity, intemperance, self-will. A person with such aspects is looking for the shortest paths leading to the goal. Mars in Capricorn (in exaltation) with Uranus leads to futile, meaningless undertakings. Perhaps these listed psychological characteristics of Vladislav lead to problems with finding a job, implementation. Whatever he took up, he always did not like everything and he quit.
Sun and Mercury - the rulers of the XII house have a converging aspect (stronger, requiring implementation) 90 Saturn in ASC in Libra (the essence of the dignity of Saturn), which may indicate the possibility of restricting freedom. Venus, the ruler of the IX house, responsible for obedience to law, has harmonious divergent aspects (inner) with Jupiter and Saturn and 150 to the Q IX house, that is, the patronage of fortune is less pronounced. Also, Jupiter is the symbolic ruler of the XII house in conjunction with the strong Saturn.
According to the Teboic calendar, Mercury is located in the degree of stealth. This is one of the villainous degrees (the sixth degree of Capricorn), betrays a potential killer; vindictiveness, the ability to prudently, coldly track down, the ability to inflict evil, a tendency to violence and sadism (this text is from the calendar).
The XII house of Vladislav's horoscope has tense connections:

  • with ASC - the formula of solitude, a person may find himself in a situation of lack of freedom;
  • with MC - dependent position in the profession, the formula of secret patronage;
  • with XI - unreliable friends, underground organizations, unhappy changes.

Also, the presence of the IC-IC formula with tense bonds indicates an unfavorable psychological climate in the family, problems in relations with the father.
The presence of formula II-VIII - excessive spending, financial difficulties associated with risk.
The presence of the formula III-VIII - accident rate in transport (Vladislav had an accident several times).

Slow progressions in 2010.
In January 2010, Pr Mars makes an exact opposition to the Q XII house of the radix, joining the Q VI house. At this time, Vladislav had health problems - they inflicted bodily harm on him while he was drunk. The fight took place in February 2010.
Converging aspects:

  • Pr Q IX houses 150 Sun;
  • Pr Mercury 135 Jupiter;
  • Pr Mercury 135 Saturn.

Divergent aspects:

  • Pr Q I 0 Saturn;
  • Pr QVII 180 Saturn;
  • Pr Q X 135 Uranium;
  • Pr Q IV 45 Uranium;
  • Pr Mars 45 Mercury;
  • Pr Q II 45 Neptune;
  • Pr Q VIII 135 Neptune.

In the second half of 2010, Vladislav started having problems with work (after rehabilitation) - leaving his old job, searching for a new one were not crowned with success. The man continued to drink alcohol (the disease), strong conflicts with his father continued (elements of houses II, IV, X, I, VI, V, II, VII, VIII, IX houses are involved in progressions). The emergency situation at home, lack of money. Anger and aggression grew.

Directorates in 2010.

  • Dr Q III 45 Black Moon in the second house;
  • Dr Q IX 135 Black Moon;
  • Dr Q V 45 Sun;
  • Dr Q XI 135 Sun;
  • Dr Neptune 180 Q XI;
  • Dr Neptune 0 Q V;

The participation of Neptune and the Sun in conjunction with the V and XI houses is a non-handed way of life, entertainment, bad companies, fake friends, and Vladislav gathered companies at his home (Neptune in the IV house, controls of the 6th and 7th houses; the Sun of controls of the 12th house).

Slow progressions in 2011.

Converging aspects (as of January 2011):

  • Pr Sun 45 Neptune;
  • Pr Mars 45 Sun;
  • Pr Venus 150 Q XII;
  • Pr Q VIII 150 Jupiter;
  • Pr Q XII 90 Venus;
  • Pr Q VI 90 Venus.

Diverging Aspects (as of January 2011):

  • Pr Mars 0 Q VI;
  • Pr Mars 180 Q XII;
  • Pr Q VIII 135 Neptune;
  • Pr Mercury 135 Jupiter;
  • Pr Mercury 135 Saturn;
  • Pr Q IX 150 Sun.

Relationships between the 4th and 9th houses are being formed - troubles and troubles because of the father, real estate, in connection with household and family affairs, disputes with relatives over inheritance, the question of alimony arose. The participation of elements VIII and XII of the house indicates a disease (in this case, alcoholism) or an accident. The IX and XII houses entail misconduct, the risk of prosecution and imprisonment. Houses I and XII together with houses VIII is a serious dangerous situation, a person may be in bondage.

Directorate in 2011.

  • Dr Mars 90 Uranus;
  • Dr Q II 45 Moon;
  • Dr Q VIII 135 Moon;
  • Dr Venus 45 Uranus
  • Dr Pluto 45 Jupiter;
  • Dr Pluto 45 Saturn;

Directorates confirm the danger of an accident, conflict. Mars 90 Uranus provokes violent actions.

Transits

In transits since July 2009, Saturn has walked the ASC. The aspect requires a reassessment of oneself and one's role in this world, the attitude towards oneself and one's own life becomes serious. A long period of pessimism (Saturn by ASC) must be experienced. The return of Tr of Saturn to natal Saturn in October 2010, with the wrong lifestyle, can lead Vladislav to problems - to limitation, isolation, strict control from the outside. By the return of Saturn, a person must develop the ability to social life, or he will be alienated.
Transiting Pluto in January, July, November 2011 merged (exact aspect) with Mercury - the ruler of the first house, XII house, III house, and then with the Sun (March, May, December exact conjunction). Pluto is a planet of catastrophes, destruction in a bad sense of the word, in one's own home (IC), on the basis of an inadequate state, alcoholism (the Sun and Mercury are the rulers of the XII house), a conflict with the father. In addition, Tr Jupiter is 90 degrees with the same Sun and Mercury in February 2011 and 180 degrees with Jupiter and Saturn natal in ASC in March - own ambitions, conflicts with his father and generally a bad atmosphere in the family.

Solarium for Vladislav's thirtieth birthday
The SO card contains a lot of indications of problems with the law at the age of thirty for Vladislav: Venus of the solarium - the ruler of the IX natal house is located in the XII solar house, in the square to the natal cusp of the XII house (exact aspect) and in opposition to the natal cusp of the IX house; Pluto is the ruler of the XII solar house in conjunction with Mercury and the natal Sun (including the Solar Sun), Mercury is the ruler of the IX and X natal houses, the Solar Sun is the ruler of the IX solar house. Mars is the ruler of the ASC and XII solar house in exact opposition to the solar cusp of the IX house and in the square to the Moon and Saturn in the XI solar house, thus forming the Tau-square.

Firdary

Subperiod Jupiter-Saturn from 12.04.2011. until 28.12.2012
Subperiod Jupiter-Saturn-Saturn from 12.04.2011 to 11.07.2011.
Jupiter with Saturn in conjunction in the natal chart in the first house is an important period in life, dependence on one's own behavior, requires self-affirmation, calculation and foresight. Law and order - this must be reckoned with.

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Some meanings 12, 11, 10, 9 houses


In the context of issues related to prison topics, the houses of the horary map have their specific meanings:
12th house - the house of personal Happiness, personal Freedom and the natural right to personal Freedom, granted to us from Above, including many accompanying rights that ensure the natural processes of life of the body (to quench thirst and hunger; sleep, rest, etc.).
As a clear negative and undesirable side of the qualities of this house, perceived negatively from the standpoint of the qualities of other houses - childish naivety, natural passivity and helplessness, impracticality, to some extent incompetence in matters of practical importance of a material and social nature, which constitute an important and significant part of life any person.

There is enough negative about the 12th house, so even this listing is already enough, although it is incomplete, to make adequate and impartial judgments about the role of the 12th house in the context of such issues. If a person shows his incompetence and other qualities of the 12th house in relation to the laws of the state, violating them for this reason, then only for juvenile criminals, due to their natural age and mental belonging to the 12th house, the court, taking into account this mitigating circumstance, makes a milder sentence. For the rest of the age categories of criminals, such extenuating circumstances are not taken into account by the court, with the exception of people with obvious mental disabilities, which are related to the 12th house, because In this case, the 12th house acts as a state institution of social and medical assistance for people who are unable to fully adapt in society due to brain disorders. Hence the belonging of such medical institutions as psychiatric hospitals to the 12th house, to which, by the way, the entire system of public health care, which implements the function of social and medical assistance to the population, belongs.

Therefore, it is very unreasonable to focus only on psychiatric hospitals, in relation to the 12th house, and even more so hastily to judge mental abilities by the 12th house in the natal chart, because disturbance of brain activity often has nothing to do with the 12th house of the horoscope of such a patient. Another reason why these sick people belong to the 12th house is banal and obvious - the natural idleness of their existence.


The motivation for the crime, in addition to naive “ignorance” in the norms of the Law (the most innocuous), which is typical for the 12th house, can be the qualities of the 5th house, pushing a person to deliberately put himself outside or above the law, deliberately violating it, as well as excessive haste and thoughtlessness in the realization of his desire, characteristic of the sign of Aries (at first he did it and only then he thought), characteristic of the 1st house, and many others related to the rest of the houses of the card. Ideology - 9th house, revenge as “a dish that is served cold” - 8th house, etc. Often many factors are simultaneously involved, determining the general picture of the criminal's motivation.
True, alcohol intoxication and drug intoxication can hardly be considered harmless factors accompanying many crimes, but for the most part, the very condition caused by such qualities of the 12th house is just a background against which the negative qualities of other houses are clearly manifested.


The square of the significators of the 1st or the 9th house with the significator of the 12th house does not mean that a crime has been committed, since it simply determines the fact of a possible arrest and deprivation of Liberty, and the offense itself should be sought with the involvement of other card houses.
9 house - the house is already responsible for social rights (the house of daytime or solar Jupiter \u003d Sun + Jupiter) of a person, as a member of society and a citizen of the state, protected and regulated by law, which relates to the 10th house of the card, like the house of the Law (the house of Saturn). A person defends his social rights (9th house) in court, therefore, the court refers directly to the 9th house, where the judge has a natural significator Jupiter, which is also a natural significator of the 9th house - the house of Jupiter.


11 house - the house of self-doubt, as an opposition to the 5th house, which always accompanies all sorts of unexpected events, leading to significant changes in life, which can rightly be attributed to imprisonment, which most mercilessly breaks the entire previous way of life. Hence, in the 11th house and the need for friends who can support and help in a difficult moment of self-doubt, in the context of the theme of prison. 11th house - the house of friends.


In the presence of the aspect of quadrature between the significators of the 12th and 9th houses (both houses are Jupiter), it is quite appropriate to talk about the conflict of the conditionally "personal right field" of the querent and his social rights in the system of state legal relations, through a lawsuit or through the authority of the "Jupiterian" or "solar" personality. So such a squaring may indicate an insurmountable conflict of the querent in the conditionally "legal field of personal and state interests", which indicates a problem with the Law with the participation of Saturn. This does not have to be a confirmation of the querent's offense, as it is stated in the school of S.V. Shestopalov, therefore there are enough nuances here, which again speaks in favor of an informal approach to the analysis of the map.
Even using the formula "Prison is a punishment for breaking the law (IX # XII)" of the school of S.V. Shestopalov, one should not attribute the meaning of a prison to the 12th house, because the insurmountable barrier (square) between the prison (12th house) and the querent's social rights, defended by him in court (9th house), implies, again, his guaranteed not to go to prison, as in the case of the significator of the 1st house.


The very process of imprisonment is directly related to the 12th house, which acts as a quesit in these matters, as something desirable for the querent - the preservation of personal Freedom, therefore it has a very positive meaning.

House 12 secrets


For what reason, even V. Lilly, already characterizing the 12th house of the natal chart, echoing the original sources, ascribes the following negative meanings to the 12th house:

« Twelfth house
He has the meaning of secret enemies , witches, cattle such as horses, bulls, elephants, etc .; sadness, grief, imprisonment, all kinds of misfortunes, self-harm, etc., and people who maliciously undermine their neighbors or secretly inform against them.
His cosignifiers are Pisces and Venus, Saturn has a lot of joy in this house, as Saturn is by nature the author of evil. " .


It would seem that in traditional horary astrology, the 12th house is presented in an extremely negative form, causing almost "disgust" to itself by a pile of "horrors" attributed to it, for an elementary reason bringing negative meanings of bad aspects into this house , as a result of which the true and positive meaning of the 12th house remained "a secret with seven seals." After all, only the obvious cretinism of such a procedure for forming the meanings of bad houses can explain the reason for the bad reputation of the 12th house in traditional horary astrology.
Another question arises: for what reason, already in natal astrology, the 12th house is also presented in a negative form, likening to its meaning from horary astrology?

As a variant of the answer: maybe this is a thoughtless broadcast of the meanings of the 12th house from horary astrology?
Hardly.
There is no need to blame anyone, but V. Lilly, for a thoughtless attitude to astrology, so it is worth looking for another explanation with reliable argumentation that allows you to understand this worthy astrologer and reveal the secret of bringing negative meanings into the 12th house.


The secret of the negative meanings of the 12th house and its bad reputation in natal astrology lies in the following:
If the positive semantic meaning of the majority of other houses for people of past centuries, as well as for our contemporaries, was and is important for achieving success in life and society, then the positive meaning of the 12th house, as a house of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, becomes relevant only as a result fatal events leading to the loss of personal Happiness, and this is grief, misfortune, and the loss of personal Freedom - imprisonment, captivity.
The 12th house realizes natural natural concepts of simple human Happiness with a natural need for personal Freedom, which is endowed with all living beings in nature - the sign of Pisces (Jupiter and Neptune). Therefore, these qualities inherent in all living things are not appreciated by people until one day a person is deprived of this natural gift, falling into jail or deprived of elementary human happiness for some other reason. The very same natural gift of the 12th house in its entirety is manifested even in a seemingly beggar person who, like any representative of the animal world, does not need an excessive accumulation of material goods to satisfy his natural vital needs.


The whole positive of the true meaning of the 12th house for people, as members of society, is discounted only by the fact that the overwhelming majority of members of society already initially have all the gifts and benefits of the 12th house, therefore the relevance, as vital importance, of this positive topic in people's lives is reduced for the most part to a minimum, perceived by them as something everyday and familiar, as a result of the natural inclusion of this house in a sequence of changes in work and rest, everyday worries and idleness (carelessness) against the background of relative personal well-being.
Even health, as an integral part of simple human personal Happiness, having a direct bearing on the 12th house, is perceived by most people as something natural and everyday, therefore, they are not appreciated by them to the proper degree until they are deprived of it. There is a similar attitude to personal Happiness and personal Freedom.


Astrology largely reflects the needs and capabilities of people in the realization of their desires, where the main mechanism for this is the 1st house, which is actively engaged in the implementation of desires, personifying the native (querent), primarily in horary astrology. The natural background against which events unfold with the active participation of the 1st house is related to the 12th house, so as long as everything in the 12th house is in order, and it does not distract attention, working in the background (Neptune) mode, its relevance for humans is devalued - " i don’t appreciate what I have, when I’m lost I cry ».
The world of “some kind of there” spiritual searches for most of humanity, busy with earthly concerns, is generally devalued, therefore, even in these issues, the role of the 12th house is often presented in a negative light of condemnation.
House 12 "turns on" consciously in full force very "easily", it is enough to "spit" on all worldly affairs and now you are already on the "sidelines" of life in the social sense of the word, which sweeps past you with the speed of a courier train. If you look at the “courier train” rushing past you from a slightly different angle of view from the “roadside” of life, you can compare it with the image of the “well-worn track” along which the bulk of humanity follows its instincts, like a monolithic herd of animals moving one by one. path, for example, to a watering hole. Already from this point of view, the perception of the "roadside" of life acquires a slightly different semantic meaning, far from its original negative.
The eternal question about the meaning of life does not find a universal and unique answer, following in its search in the vicious circle (of animals) of the Zodiac.


The actions of the Creator are worthy of surprise!
Our hearts are filled with bitterness:
We leave this world without knowing
No beginning, no meaning, no end.
Omar Khayyam


Idleness, not doing, contemplation is the lot of the "lucky ones" for whom the pursuit of excess material "benefits" of life is no longer relevant to the extent that they spend too much of their time on it, allowing them to get rid of this burden for spiritual matters or for personal creativity, etc. .P. Only these "lucky ones" can fully appreciate the high significance of the gifts of the 12th house, for the rest of humanity the 12th house is naturally included in the sequence of their everyday life, therefore it does not represent something valuable until the time, until the time.
That's when it comes time associated with the acute urgency of the loss of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, then the significance of the 12th house becomes a priority for the life of any person, therefore, it is precisely such negative events associated with the loss of natural gifts of the 12th house that are reflected in astrology through their mistaken identification with the 12th house.
As a result, we have what we have in the traditional interpretation of the 12th house:
deprivation of personal Freedom - imprisonment,
loss of personal Happiness - grief, misfortune,
and without mentioning the interpretation of personal Happiness and personal Freedom in the text, as a result, in the "dry" residue we get only negative - imprisonment, grief, misfortune.

Thus, the negative meaning of the 12th house, traditional for natal astrology, is a consequence of the general human attitude to the state of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, natural for any person, which is expressed by the phrase: "I don't appreciate what I have, if I lose, I cry" , demonstrating an example of universal human ingratitude towards the gifts of the 12th house.


The true and positive meaning of the 12th house, due to its general availability even for the poor, does not motivate people to even greater achievements in this field, since the existing natural ceiling in meeting the natural material needs for the 12th house is significantly lower than any already socially significant needs of people, the satisfaction of which is occupied by 1 house, including the rest of the houses. For example, you can receive a completely varied and healthy diet for some minimum reasonable amount of money, satisfying the natural feeling of hunger, which is the minimum threshold of material well-being corresponding to personal happiness in the 12th house. At the same time, this minimum reasonable threshold for food intake is a guarantee of health, both bodily and spiritual, as evidenced by the practice of monks and the advice of nutritionists for laymen.
The 12th house in the most natural way determines the material needs of a person with the level necessary to satisfy the elementary life processes of the body, therefore, long-term personal Happiness in the 12th house is achievable for the vast majority of people leading a healthy lifestyle, which does not require significant efforts of the 1st house to achieve it.

Here is a picture of Happiness (Jupiter) in a social environment, and even in the 9th house, can become an unattainable goal, in the pursuit of which all other houses and especially 1 house will be mobilized, which turns a person into a slave of these socially significant and always ghostly, but desirable values 9 houses, which are external attributes of social happiness.


1 house "has no aspect" to the 12th house precisely because the natural level of a person's needs for the 12th house, as a rule, has already been reached, without the need to further increase it, if this does not apply to spiritual matters, etc. of this kind, for which qualities of the 1st house are no longer relevant.
When, according to the habit inherent in people not to appreciate the natural gifts of the 12th house, they already have to mourn the loss of personal Happiness and personal Freedom, “staying at a broken trough”, arriving in grief and sorrow, then the topic of the 12th house “rises to its full height”, drawing attention to itself , which is stated by traditional astrology "according to the residual principle."
Therefore, for reasons that are quite natural for human nature (“which I don’t appreciate), the role of the 12th house in astrology becomes relevant and desirable - a quesit for the querent (native) when he loses the previously available and familiar gifts of the 12th house (personal Freedom and personal Happiness ), "Mourning" them - "Lost - crying" .
The inability to value personal Happiness and personal Freedom, as gifts of the 12th house, is characteristic of the vast majority of humanity, carried away by the pursuit of the always ghostly image of social happiness. It is typical for traditional astrology to express to an even greater extent human ingratitude towards the gifts of the 12th house, evaluating them from the position of stereotypes of social happiness and success in society, expressed in the material attributes of social happiness.
The gifts of the 12th house are not only the background on which a person realizes his social aspirations in pursuit of social stereotypes of happiness, but in fact, the gifts of the 12th house, like the 12th house itself, are a kind of foundation on which a "building" of social well-being is erected in the future and happiness. As you can see, the collapse of the fundamental foundations of general social happiness is associated with the collapse of personal Happiness and the deprivation of personal Freedom in the 12th house, bringing grief and misfortune, from which the high level of previously achieved social success does not even save.

Astrologers of the level of V. Lilly absolutely rightly and with understanding of the matter made their judgments in horary questions about imprisonment, grief and misfortune in the 12th house, without even attributing these values \u200b\u200bto the 12th house, but simply indicating the special role of this house in issues related to this topic, which require their understanding. Quote: "About the twelfth house and questions that relate to it accordingly, namely, imprisonment, ..." .
V. Lilly emphasized the important role of the 12th house in horary astrology in matters related to troubles in the life of the querent in the presence of a bad aspect between the rulers of the 1st and 12th houses, which is absolutely true, but at the same time he did not descend to the primitive identification of the prison with the 12th house, which is universal admitted by modern pseudo-guardians of tradition.

The only example of using the significator of the 12th house to designate a prisoner who escaped from prison testifies to the fact that V. Lilly, in fact, in his answer designated this significator as a prisoner free at the time of asking the question!


In natal astrology, describing the 12th house, V. Lilly simply continued to focus the readers' attention on the importance of the 12th house in matters related to dramatic events in the life of people, along with other indications of this in the horoscope that are not related to the 12th house, again without going down to a low level of primitivism in astrology, which takes place among modern pseudo-guardians of the tradition, placing all responsibility on the 12th house. It is not for nothing that V. Lilly has repeatedly drawn the attention of his readers to the importance of a correct understanding of astrology, which in modern astrology "You won't find with fire in the daytime" , thanks to the profanation of many of its concepts, universal for modern traditional astrology.


Phrase: "Saturn has a lot of joy in this house, since Saturn is by nature the author of evil." , wandering from one "primary source" to another, repeating itself many times, is largely fair, but in fact has a slightly different semantic meaning, lost as a result of the profanation of astrology.
True meaning of the phrase "Saturn has a lot of joy in the 12th house" contains a much deeper and more positive meaning associated with the universally recognized value of Saturn, as the significator of old age, denoting old people, including the wise, who at the end of their lives, for quite natural reasons, move away from worldly affairs, going to rest and rest, which we all owe the 12th house.
If in early childhood the 12th house, like the 4th house, is the natural habitat of small children who, due to their early childhood, are not loaded in society with all sorts of work (10th house) and personal concerns (6th house), then at the end of active labor activity As a result of the natural aging of the body, old people, moving away from business, return to the origins of their idle pastime in the 12th house.

At the same time, Saturn, undoubtedly rejoicing in the 12th house, is already fully engaged in performing new social functions for itself in the 12th house - caring for and taking care of its grandchildren and great-grandchildren (joyful chores).
Saturn in the guise of elderly and senile people, being their natural significator, really rejoices in the 12th house, freed from many worldly worries and social affairs (work, service), finding peace and the opportunity to finally take care of your personal Happiness, which has always happened sacrifice earlier, realizing their social ambitions. Confirmation of what we find in the situation of pensioners in developed countries with a social orientation towards the well-being of all citizens, and not of its individual categories. Retirees from many countries have the opportunity to travel around the world, for example, the USA, Japan, some European countries, etc., and a decent pension allows you to finally fulfill some of your old dreams, completely surrender to your favorite pastime, hobby, as the 12th house theme ... So old age, whose significator is Saturn, really rejoices in the 12th house ...


Finishing this phrase "horror story" about the evil Saturn, which "By nature is the author of evil" , rather biasedly reflects the meaning of Saturn, which also has another meaning - wisdom, etc., which is confirmed by a very high reputation in astrology in the 10th house of the horoscope with its natural significator Saturn.
These pseudo-guardians of tradition even managed to give the highest point of the horoscope Mc the meaning of the 10th house cusp, thereby erecting the symbolic ruler of the 10th house of Saturn on Ms, which in fact should give Saturn even an excessive positive meaning, contrary to the statement: "... is the author of evil" ... Therefore, the semantic content of this "horror story" is a simple continuation and add-on to the traditional frightening interpretation of the "bad" 12th house from the pseudo-guardians of traditional astrology, who did not have enough intelligence and sanity to understand the true meaning of the 12th house in Astrology.

Is astrology an empirical science?


Phrase: "Saturn has a lot of joy in the 12th house ..." , in modern astrology, thoughtlessly copied from text to text in a distorted semantic meaning, however, like the 12th house itself, which serves as a confirmation of the profanation and degradation of astrological knowledge that was given to people from above, and is not empirical knowledge, as many quoted people like to declare modern astrologers. For example, E. Lewis writes: "Horar, like all astrology, is an empirical science" .
These pseudo-guardians of tradition, who distorted astrology with their misunderstanding, naively and self-confidently believe that from generation to generation, bit by bit, they have gathered together scattered knowledge and formed such a system of knowledge that embraces the existence of life on Earth.


Astrology really is now something eclectically empirical, because the term empiricism means: "1. Philosophical trend, recognizing sensory perception and experience as the only source of knowledge, underestimating the value of concepts, theoretical generalizations in the study of individual facts and phenomena. 2. A research method based on the description of facts, without further conclusions and theoretical generalizations " (4).
Only narrow-minded people can state that astrology as a whole, as a system of knowledge, is an empirical science that has arisen and is based in its development only on the personal experience of astrologers, who, like “blind moles”, rely only on their senses and personal experience in perceiving the world, realizing this empirical approach to understanding the world. And even more so with such an approach to astrology, the very possibility of this “herd of blind moles” to reach even the level of knowledge in astrology that we have now seems to be simply unnatural and incredible. This approach to astrology is the only one that can explain the profanation of many concepts in modern astrology.


A different picture of the emergence of astrology, as an integral system of knowledge, which finds confirmation in Greek mythology, according to which much knowledge was given to people from Above, looks much more realistic, and Greek mythology itself, in its content, resembles a textbook for studying the foundations of astrology. Despite its mythological basis, it extremely faithfully conveys the meaning and meaning of the basic concepts in astrology.
It was just up to people to lose this priceless gift of the gods, given the personal subjectivity of the perception of any person. Moreover, Chiron, as an expert on medicine and other arts, gave his knowledge to far from simple mortals, therefore, through which “hands” distorting the essence of the art of astrology she passed through the millennia, one can only guess.
The merit of the ancient and medieval classics of astrology is their attempt to preserve the remnants of astrology knowledge lost in centuries, which have come down to them in a somewhat distorted form, thanks to the introduction of its subjective perception into astrology by the carriers of this knowledge - by many generations of astrologers.


Adaptation of astrological knowledge to modern conditions can really serve as an example of an empirical approach to astrology, although a quite appropriate analogy with chemistry, which was also an empirical science, makes its discoveries "blindly and by touch" by chemists by coincidence of chance circumstances.

Only after the discovery of the law of periodicity of chemical elements by D.I.Mendeleev, by the way, made by him in a dream, to which we owe the 12th house, did chemistry acquire a theoretical basis, which opens up the possibility of searching for new chemical elements, knowing their properties, ceasing to be empirical.
Therefore, an empirical approach to the development of any science is characteristic of its initial stage of development (blindly and by touch), which usually ends with some kind of fundamental discovery, as in chemistry.
The statement by leading modern astrologers of the fact that astrology is "empirical" confirms its very low level of development, which is absolutely consistent with the method of interpreting the meanings of bad houses in modern traditional astrology, including the introduction of meanings into the 12th house that are diametrically opposite to its original and true meanings.
We owe the empirical approach in the development of modern traditional astrology to an elementary lack of understanding of the foundations of Astrology.


Hopefully, astrology will finally cease to be empirical, demonstrating to us the obvious stupidity of a methodological nature in interpreting the meanings of houses and many other concepts.
If someone from the venerable meters of traditional astrology thinks that I poured a tub of "dirt" on traditional astrology, blaming it, blaming, to put it mildly, of the stupidity of modern carriers of this knowledge, because Through their efforts, astrology has been raised almost to the rank of Science, then let me ask why, given such a high "scientific potential", as declared by many astrologers, the results of, say, rectification of a horoscope from a dozen average professional astrologers will differ so much that it is more resembles the activity of amateurs, as "blind moles", and not professionals?

The Hamburg School of Astrology is famous for its unique methods that allow making the most accurate predictions, and every year the interest in it is growing. However, there is still not enough Russian-language literature on this topic: now there are only three books (Maria Kay Simms "Astrological detective. Investigations using a 90-degree scale", Konstantin Arev "Composite chart" and Denis Kutalev "Trans-Neptuns in Uranian astrology") and two seminars on DVD ("Unaccounted for opportunities of the Hamburg school" Areva and "Introduction to Uranic astrology" by Kutalev). Articles by the recognized master of Uranic astrology Konstantin Arev will allow readers to get to know this amazing school better and get to know in practice its powerful tools.

In this short note, I will try to introduce you to the most common formulas of the Hamburg School of Astrology, with the help of which it is possible to predict such unpleasant events as arrests, imprisonment, exile and flight.

The most common planetary combination leading to such tragic consequences is the relationship between Saturn and Hades. Agree that imprisonment itself is a rather sad limitation. The very same prison can be called one of those phenomena with the help of which there is an attempt to limit crime. And if you think about it, then the above definitions are precisely the final result of the combination of Saturn and Hades. Sadness (Hades) + Restrictions (Saturn). Restriction (Saturn) + Crime (Hades).

If we add the Sun to the combination of Saturn and Hades, which in Hamburg astrology is the indicator of the physical body, we get the formula SA + HA-SU, which is responsible for the physical limitation of criminals. Participation in events such as links is traditionally attributed to the same formula.

Also, quite often, in these sad matters, two formulas come to the fore, the basis for which is the combination of the Lunar Node and Kronos. Essentially, the planetary NO + KR relationship indicates a link or contact with the law and / or officials. If we add Saturn (restrictions and difficulties) to the above planetary configuration, then we get another formula for imprisonment, because, in this case, it is very similar to the restrictions obtained in the course of contact with the law and / or people representing the law.

And finally, the last of the most common formulas looks like a combination of Lunar Node, Kronos and Mars, which may indicate arrest. In this case, the native, thanks to his own actions (Mars), can come into contact with the law and authorities (Lunar Node + Kronos).

So, let's write out these formulas and try to very briefly check their performance.

  • SA + HA
  • SA + HA - SU or SU + HA - SA
  • NO + KR - MA
  • NO + KR - SA

Well, now let's start checking ...

February 10, 1897, V. I. Lenin is sentenced to exile in Siberia.
Having found the sensitive point SU + HA-SA in Lenin's natal chart (Link), we will see how the transit Saturn passed along the axis of this formula, and the directional planetary sum SU + HA entered the orb of influence to the axis of natal Saturn. The link formula was implemented twice ... I will add that at this time, the transit midpoint SA / HA was on the axis of the natal half-sum SA / HA.

May 2, 1536, the English king Henry VIII gave the order to conclude his wife, Anne Boleyn, in the Tower.
The second wife of Henry VIII was born on May 5, 1507, at 11:31 GMT, in London. The rating of the reliability of the date of birth is "XX", that is, we can say that the time of birth is completely unknown. But regardless of the knowledge of the time of birth of Anne Boleyn, during this period along the axis of her natal Saturn there was a transit midpoint SA / HA, which indicates an arrest and imprisonment.

But the relationship between Saturn and Hades is not just arrest and imprisonment. This planetary relationship also means trying to rid oneself of such manifestations, for example, through flight. We can consider one historical example.

May 2, 1568, Queen Mary Stuart of Scots made a successful escape from Loch Leuven, where she was being held by the British.
Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots, was born on December 18, 1542, at 13:12 local time (LMT -00: 14: 00. Linlithgow, Scotland). The credibility rating is "AA".
In this situation, we can also see a transit midpoint SA / HA on the axis of natal Hades, but since by this time the native was already arrested, this planetary picture may mean flight.

May 5, 1849, Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky, together with other Petrashevites, was arrested on a denunciation.
Fyodor Mikhailovich was born on November 11, 1821, in Moscow. The time of birth is unknown. According to the Russian astrologer BZ Izraitel, the time of birth is 11:14 GMT.
At the time of the arrest, the directional Saturn was on the axis of the natal midpoint SA / HA, and the transit Saturn was in the half-cross to this natal midpoint. At the same time, the transit midpoint SA / HA passed along the axis of natal Saturn and Hades.

May 10, 1848, Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov leaves the capital for exile in Vyatka. He had been arrested a few days earlier.
Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov was born on January 26, 1826 in the village of Spas-Ugol (now the Kalyazinsky district of the Tver region). The time of birth is unknown. The Russian astrologer B.Z. Izraitel, after the rectification carried out by him, sets the time of birth at 23:07 GMT.
This entire period of time from arrest to exile, the transit of Saturn in the cross to natal Hades, and the resulting planetary picture SA \u003d HA, is a formula for arrest, trouble and isolation.

May 10, 1929, the future leader of North Korea Kim Il Sung, was imprisoned for political reasons.
Kim Il Sung was born on April 15, 1912, near Pyongyang. The time of birth is unknown.
The transit midpoint SA / HA entered the orb of influence to the axis of natal Saturn, which realized the formula of arrest and imprisonment. There is also a formula for arrest and imprisonment, which is written like this: NO + KR-SA. If we find the axis of this natal sensitive point NO + KR-SA, then we will see how at that time the directional Kronos passed there, which helped to realize the formula of arrest and imprisonment.

May 11, 1915, the Russian general Lavr Georgievich Kornilov had to surrender to the Austrians.
Lavr Georgievich was born on August 30, 1870, where the modern city of Karkaralinsk of the Karaganda region of Kazakhstan is now. The time of birth is unknown.
If you look closely at the general's cosmogram, you can identify this position: the transit Saturn was located exactly on the axis of the natal sensitive point NO + KR-SA, which means that the formula of arrest and prison was realized. But on the axis of the natal sensitive point NO + KR-MA (this formula also reads as arrest and imprisonment), directional Zeus came, which looks extremely symbolic. After all, Zeus patronizes the military, and Kornilov is precisely the military. Moreover, Kornilov was not just a prisoner, but a prisoner of war. But the transit sensitive point NO + KR-SA, was in opposition to the natal Zeus general, which can also determine the arrest in war or capture.

March 4, 1837, the poet Mikhail Yuryevich Lermontov was arrested for the poem "Death of a Poet".
Mikhail Yurievich was born on October 15, 1814, in Moscow. The time of birth is unknown.
During this unpleasant event in Lermontov's life, the transit Saturn passed through his natal Saturn and Hades, which realized the formula of prison and arrest. At the same time, the transit sensitive point NO + KR-SA passed along the axis of the natal Lunar Node, which realized the formula of being under arrest (NO + KR \u003d SA + NO).

And exactly 111 years later, March 4, 1848, a certain Karl Marx is arrested by the Brussels police and expelled from Belgium.
Karl Marx was born on May 5, 1818, at 02:00 LMT (GMT -00: 27: 00. Trier, Germany). Date of birth reliability rating "AA".
And Karl Marx, at the time of his arrest, transited Saturn along the axis of natal Saturn and Hades, which also realized the formula of prison and arrest.

February 13, 1633, Inquisition in Rome arrests astronomer Galileo Galilei.
On this day, along the axis of natal Mars in the Galileo chart, the transit sensitive point NO + KR-MA passed, which indicates the arrest of a person. But this transit planetary picture, nevertheless, has a rather fast speed, in order to make a judgment with the help of it. Therefore, we will need more "stable" planetary evidence of arrest. For instance. there is one more formula - NO + KR-SA. And just at the time of the arrest, midpoint NO / KR passed along the axis of natal Saturn, which realized the arrest formula. There is one more indication of arrest. Here's another formula for you: SA + HA-SU. If we find the axis of such a natal sensitive point in Galileo's chart, then we will make sure that this planetary structure is located on the axis of natal Saturn, which already from the birth of Galileo implements the formula (SA + HA \u003d SU + SA). But at the time of the arrest, the transit Hades (SA \u003d HA) passed along the axis of this natal sensitive point, which realized the arrest twice. First, as the SA + HA-SU sensitive point closing the formula. And the simple relationship between Saturn and Hades indicates the possibility of imprisonment.

February 25, 1713, Turkish Sultan captures the Swedish king Charles XII.
Charles XII was born on June 27, 1682, in Stockholm, at 06:45 LMT (GMT -01: 12: 00). Date of birth reliability rating "B".
During the capture of the king, the transit Hades (SA \u003d HA - "Prison. Isolation") passed along the axis of his natal Saturn. At the same time, along the axis of the natal midpoint SA / HA, both the directional Saturn and the transit one were simultaneously passing, which also realized the formula of prison and isolation. But along the axis of natal Hades was the directional midpoint SA / HA. In general, wherever you go, there is a prison everywhere. Along the axis of natal midpoint MO / HA, transit Zeus passed, which created a planetary picture in charge of prisoners of war. Directional planetary sum NO + KR and transit midpoint NO / KR, came to the axis of natal Mars, and such planetary pictures indicate arrest. On the axis of the natal sensitive point NO + KR-SA ("Being under arrest"), transit Saturn passed.

A very similar situation happened with Alexei Petrovich Bestuzhev-Ryumin. February 25, 1758, arrested the Russian chancellor, the head of the Collegium of Foreign Affairs A. Bestuzhev-Ryumin.
Alexey Petrovich was born on June 1 (May 22), 1693, in Moscow. The time of birth is unknown.
At the time of his arrest, the transit Hades connected to the axis of the natal midpoint SA / HA ("Prison. Isolation"). And at the same time, the transit midpoint SA / HA was passing along the axis of natal Saturn. Directional sensitive point NO + KR-SA, passed along the axis of the natal Lunar Node, which realized the formula of being under arrest.

February 26, 1924, Adolf Hitler is sentenced to five years in prison for "Beer Hall Putsch".
Amazingly, at this time, on the axis of the natal midpoint SA / HA ("Prison. Isolation"), the directional and transit midpoints of SA / HA came simultaneously and very accurately, which implemented the prison formula. The transit sensitive point NO + KR-MA came to the axis of natal Mars, and the formula of arrest and imprisonment was realized (NO + KR \u003d MA + MA).

February 27, 1937, the plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) expelled Nikolai Bukharin from the party, after which he was arrested.
The transit Hades was exactly on the axis of natal Saturn and such a planetary picture speaks of arrest and imprisonment, and this despite the fact that transit Saturn passed along the axis of natal Hades, and the directional Saturn was on the axis of natal midpoint SA / HA. And the directional sensitive point NO + KR-SA passed along the axis of natal Saturn, which made it possible to implement the arrest formula (NO + KR-SA \u003d SA).

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